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Post by Jas the Mace on Dec 25, 2008 6:34:10 GMT
1. The same criteria applies to both Hetro and Homo couples. As a married Hetro who owns a salon I have known many single and 'married' couples. Just like Hetro couples some are great parents and some should never be allowed to be for various reasons that apply to both Hetro and Homo couples. If the 'Best' interest of the child is most important, apply the same criteria to both.
2. I have been labeled an atheist by religious people because I don't believe in God. The weirdest thing about it is when a person of faith tries to 'convince' me that atheism 'is' my religion...?....Crazy people....if I don't want to participate in oganized religion why in the world would I want to participate in an Anti-Religious organization..?....Furthermore I would lay my life on the line to protect your right to your faith because that's the only way I have the right to my lack of faith without percecution. I attack no one...and yet most religions want to kill or ostracize me because I can't be converted to belief in God. I would also like to state that the bone-head moron atheists who post anti-Christmas displays and file lawsuits haven't left religion behind.....Which is the very definition of Atheism.....Once again...Morons
3. Only if you as a religious institution want to continue to profit....
4. I think the largest glaring difference comes from Islam.....it's the only religion where it's not a crime to Kill.....That's where the term 'Infidel' comes from....it means you're killable without repercussions from heaven or society to the 'Jihadist' who kills you....nice religion...... Most of the rest of the western religions are the same with small differences taking us to the east and some of the best religions on the earth.....Hindu....Buddhism....Taoism......all fervently anti violence.....you don't even need a God to follow the 'River of Life'...how cool is that.?..But who has the time? I guess most workers and I worship the Dollar....(Euro, Yen, Pound..whatever)
Where that Leads who knows.......
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Post by Jatayu on Dec 25, 2008 16:17:33 GMT
Err.. what are you talking about? This thread has been dead since ages..
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Post by Jas the Mace on Dec 26, 2008 16:38:16 GMT
I just read it for the first time and answered
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Post by Basse on Dec 26, 2008 19:56:43 GMT
Then why do you keep posting your "interesting links" here still? ;D
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Post by Jatayu on Dec 27, 2008 4:00:39 GMT
Jas 'answered' pointwise to something.. so I asked. Another interesting link ( nothing to do with theology ) The voyager coronary, a funny parody of the TV show Star Trek: Voyager. It's fun if you happen to like that kind of thing.
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Post by Jas the Mace on Dec 27, 2008 23:58:11 GMT
What is that.....Shamless plug #267.....
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Post by Matt on Sept 17, 2010 3:53:41 GMT
Not really sure I should revive the only thread in SWS history that has the possibility of getting uncivil, but here goes: Any thoughts on this Ground zero mosque thing? For those outside the US, there is an Islamic group that owns a piece of property at ground zero (World Trade center location). It's not exactly the land the TC's were built on, but it's fairly close. Anyway, they are attempting to build a mosque there, which has drawn some serious outrage. There, you're caught up. Personally, I don't have an issue with it. I'm not a muslim, but if a country is free and you own a property, technically it is yours to do with as you will. I feel it is a bit tacky, as there are thousands of people for whom the WTC bombings are a personal tragedy. But freedom of religious expression is still freedom as far as I see it. I'm also not terribly worried Moslems will get their freedoms trampled on because they do a very good job of not letting that happen. There was some idiot Christain minister guy who threatened to burn a Koran in some demonstration before heeding advice and not going through with it. I swear, I'm not sure I actually have an organized religion anymore. I used to say I was a Christian and I still am more or less but association with what people have come to regard Christians as is unwelcome. There's a lot of non religious people who would be less uncomfortable in a church than me if I were to try to go these days... On another side to this argument, I firmly believe there are plenty of Moslems who should not be grouped with the fanatical and terroristic groups. But I do think they sometimes do a rather poor job of making their disproval of terrorism clear. The Islamic religion could really use some PR. Doing something tacky like building a mosque on the site where fanatics killed thousands in the name of your religion just doesn't help the situation. Also, we're all aware Andan is Muslim, so let's try not to get insulting here.
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Sept 17, 2010 5:27:59 GMT
I thought the proposed site was a few streets away? I find it a little strange to disapprove of given that there's no suggested deliberate connection between the placement and the WTC, and that a number of muslims were killed in the attack. On the front of tackiness, from my memory Manhattan is a tacky place in general and this hardly stands out. That said, this sort of thing often comes down to an emotional reaction which doesn't need justification with rational arguments. But I don't think the plan is out of order and so in the place of its proponents I wouldn't feel any obligation to change it either.
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Post by Watson on Sept 17, 2010 8:42:27 GMT
Damn, could somebody resurrect the soapbox? The discussion was concerning an interesting topic when suddenly it all stopped.
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Post by Joshua4missions on Sept 17, 2010 13:50:16 GMT
Here's the link to the Ground Zero Mosque News. "http://abcnews.go.com/US/pastor-terry-jones-cancels-koran-burning-calls-ground/story?id=11594495"
They've been wanting to do this for quite some time now, and it seems that they've agred to move it's location.
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Post by Jatayu on Sept 17, 2010 16:06:21 GMT
The mosque at ground zero is a symbol commemorating Islam's victory over the USA. Nothing else. What is so difficult to believe about that? Its so obvious.. They could make a mosque anywhere they wanted. why do they insist on that spot? It's even named the Cordoba house. Cordoba is a town in Spain where a mosque was erected about 1200 years ago to commemorate the muslim conquest of Spain. They plan to open it on 11th Sept of next year , guess why.. the tenth anniversary of the great victory.. How dense does one have to be not to see the obvious symbolism... If the mosque goes up , you can be 100% sure it will be advertised all over the islamic world as a great triumph over the unbelievers. 'LOL we killed thousands of your ppl here ten years ago and now we've put a mosque there to celebrate it..'
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Post by Joshua4missions on Sept 17, 2010 16:19:29 GMT
Ahhh, so thats it. A memorial to celebrate their *so called victory*.
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Sept 17, 2010 16:53:29 GMT
Jatayu, isn't it at all possible that it's called Cordoba House because of the involvement of the Cordoba Initiative, whose website claims it alludes to when Christians, Muslims and Jews co-existed peacefully in that town. It seems a rather strained interpretation to see the mosque as an aggressive monument, particularly as some of your claims are unsourced.
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Post by Matt on Sept 17, 2010 16:57:50 GMT
They tend to refer to several blocks now as ground zero I guess. Also, what did you mean by Manhattan being a tacky place?
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Sept 17, 2010 17:14:30 GMT
It is in America. Seriously, it's all steel and glass and litter and fast food outlets and grime and cheap souvenirs and neon lights. Rome it certainly isn't.
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Post by Jatayu on Sept 17, 2010 18:19:37 GMT
Jatayu, isn't it at all possible that it's called Cordoba House because of the involvement of the Cordoba Initiative, whose website claims it alludes to when Christians, Muslims and Jews co-existed peacefully in that town. It seems a rather strained interpretation to see the mosque as an aggressive monument, particularly as some of your claims are unsourced. Its possible. It's much more possible however, is that you are being taken for a ride. Islam has a very clear history of building mosques on top of demolished unbeliever's monuments in order to declare their supremacy. The first mosque was built by prophet muhammad right after he captured mecca on the ruins of the most important meccan temple. You might be interested in what your fellow brit has to say about it - Pat Condell No mosque at Ground ZeroBad faith at ground zero
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Post by Jatayu on Sept 17, 2010 18:22:03 GMT
What's 'tacky' about manhattan? It has tall buildings, other than that it isn't really any different from other big cities in USA. By the way, I wonder how many of you ever visited ground zero. I have.
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Sept 17, 2010 18:44:44 GMT
The only other big US city I've spent any time in is Washington DC. That was less tacky.
To satisfy your curiosity, I have visited ground zero.
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Post by Matt on Sept 17, 2010 20:32:41 GMT
Never been there.
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Post by Joshua4missions on Sept 17, 2010 22:28:22 GMT
I've been there to. In fact, I've travelled from coast to coast, north to south in America.
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Post by jon. on Sept 17, 2010 22:45:08 GMT
In defense, the US became a state around the same time the Industrial Revolution occurred, not to mention the fact that there aren't any millennium-old cities on which we could base our own societies. I have never been to NYC, though; I've only been to New Hampshire (which is quite a lovely state, despite being Dantares' homeland ).
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Post by The 'Associate' on Oct 15, 2010 4:18:26 GMT
just like the ground zero situation,there was a situation in India.Ayodhya was the birthplace of Lord Rama but in sixteenth century,some mughal officer demolished an ancient temple and built a mosque.Since then the fight carries out between both sides,each claiming the land to be their.Recently,the court decided to split the land in 3 parts,1 to muslims,2 to hindus.Strange,isn't it?
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