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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Oct 28, 2008 9:40:55 GMT
Africa has a few dozen problems, but none of them have to be permanent. I wouldn't have been too optimistic looking at dark age Europe but now it's the most developed continent on the globe.
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Post by Morgoth on Oct 28, 2008 16:07:24 GMT
Dark age europe was pretty good compared to other areas of the time (scratch the middle-east, it was golden period then there. Right?)
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Oct 28, 2008 16:44:31 GMT
Not really. The Middle East and Far East surpassed it by far. And at that time Europe was a whole lot worse than Africa is today, so there's no point in writing off an entire continent like that.
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Post by Morgoth on Oct 28, 2008 19:34:07 GMT
So your point is that Europe was worse in the dark age than Africa is today?
Okaaay.
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Oct 28, 2008 21:11:16 GMT
My point was that your idea of abandoning Africa as a lost cause is a bad one. Put very simply.
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Post by Morgoth on Oct 29, 2008 16:59:01 GMT
Okay, let's make a deal. When an african country becomes the next superpower, I'll owe you 10 quid.
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Oct 29, 2008 18:25:59 GMT
It will happen one day. And when it does I will dig up your grave to remind you of this little deal.
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Post by Morgoth on Oct 29, 2008 18:36:21 GMT
HOW DARE YOU IMPLY THAT I AM A MORTAL? HUH?
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Oct 29, 2008 18:54:05 GMT
You're an Estonian. It only feels like you live forever because it's boring over there. *hides*
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Jan 21, 2009 17:48:29 GMT
Opinions on Obama?
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Post by Morgoth on Jan 21, 2009 19:15:23 GMT
Has had more hype than New Coke and won't live up to it. It seems like the only thing he has actually DONE is being black.
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Jan 21, 2009 19:19:41 GMT
Well to be fair he hasn't yet been president for a full day...
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Post by Matt on Jan 21, 2009 20:37:22 GMT
Well to be fair he hasn't yet been president for a full day... which is why the hype is so annoying. I look at it this way, as long as each president gets better than the last we are ok over here. Bush did better than Clinton by keeping his belt buckled (literally), but was still a bit of a disgrace in other areas. If Obama can come off as a little bit less of a puppet I would be happy. Coincidentally, does anyone else feel his speeches are not as great as people make them out to be? I dunno, sounds like everytime he is trying to give the next great American speech. Sounds like a politician, funny enough. As bad as Bush was at public speaking, he seemed more genuine. Also, how on earth do you flub the oath? I don't care who made the mistake (judge or him), that is pretty embarrassing.
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Jan 21, 2009 21:02:10 GMT
Well, by definition, yes.
They're quite well crafted, and he delivers them strongly. That's all you can ask from a speech really. When you hype anything, the real article is a disappointment.
So, what's his to-do list looking like?
1. Solve world economic crisis 2. Bring peace to the Middle East 3. Restore America's faith in itself 4. Revolutionise the federal government 5. Affordable health care for all 6. Bring about new era of politics 7. Restore America's infrastructure 8. Tackle national debt 9. End racial inequality 10. Halt global warming
If he manages three I'll be impressed.
On a related note, it's laughable that Americans believe their president can achieve anything on the scale they're expecting. Your entire political system seems to have been designed to make it impossible to do anything that someone, somewhere disagrees with.
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Post by Jatayu on Jan 22, 2009 4:20:18 GMT
Obama has a really uphill task because he has inherited a great economic depression and a highly unpopular Iraq war. Let's see what he does on both counts.
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Post by Morgoth on Jan 22, 2009 8:02:23 GMT
Hah, Obama is a weakling in speeches compared to the greats, like Hitler. Obama should learn to kick out all the "change" and "hope" so that intelligent people could make something of the speech, instead of just listening to pointless ranting.
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Jan 22, 2009 8:15:07 GMT
Hitler was kind of big on change and hope too. Just from a different perspective.
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Post by Jatayu on Jan 24, 2009 4:51:03 GMT
Obama just spouted some politically correct BS that you'd expect from any politician and I'm not too worried about that. Let's see what he does. History always judges ppl for what they do, not what they say.
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