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Post by Watson on Sept 15, 2010 20:38:21 GMT
Erm, actually I only asked him for his file name (Like Jatayu was regedit.exe..). It doesn't help a bit knowing the filename! Bugger, does it?Also, I'm sending the PM now..
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Post by jon. on Sept 15, 2010 20:49:15 GMT
1. This thread is closed communication. No exceptions. 2. Do not edit your posts.
Everyone: Do not post in this thread until Night 1 has concluded.
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Post by jon. on Sept 16, 2010 11:58:57 GMT
After booting his computer overnight, Dave rose from his bed to find that all of his 32-bit applications failed on startup. Every time he tried to run any of his new programs, he was greeted with a missing RUNDLL32.EXE error (occasionally having a box display "There was an error displaying the previous error").* rundll32.exe (joshua4missions) has been deleted. He was a pro-town cop.It is now Day 2. Three people are standing, so two to lynch.*Too lazy to test it in a VM, but I don't think windows can actually run without that file.
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Post by Watson on Sept 16, 2010 12:17:16 GMT
All right, here's what I've worked out:
Watson: The Naive cop; Either Julius or Matty was supposed to be the big one, but I've recieved innocents for both of them. This proves that I'm no use in the game.
Jatayu: The Sane cop. As I'm assured of my own innocence, I do know that he was speaking the truth.
Joshua: The Paranoid cop.
Which leaves, Julius: The Insane cop.
So this leaves Matty as the big one.
Lynch: Matty.
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Post by Watson on Sept 16, 2010 12:22:11 GMT
Although, this does leave me puzzled. Joshua was deleted after Julius logged in...
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Post by Matt on Sept 16, 2010 19:04:46 GMT
I'm really pretty sure Watson is guilty without having to use logic. Why do you keep pushing lynches? Besides, no one should lynch without all the cops reporting, that's insane. Also, if you somehow were not the mafia and Julius was, he'd have a free pass to the win. All he would have to do is vote for me and win by default. I hope you are the mafia because otherwise we just lost the game. Anyway, I investigated myself last night and got guilty. That means I am either Insane/Paranoid. Watson claims he recieved innocent for both me and Julius. For him to be cleared, he has to be naive. Anyway, we need Julius's results first. If I use todays results with yesterday's results, no one can be cleared as of yet. Even if you are the naive cop, me or Julius could still be guilty. That almost certainly means you are either making a huge logical error or are the scum. But I wait on Julius to post before lynching your mobster neck.
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Post by Watson on Sept 16, 2010 19:28:00 GMT
Whoopsy, I did discover that in the morning, but as Turty said, "no editing your posts", too late, the deed had been done. If you're as innocent as you say, then you're the insane cop.. Damn, sorry Matty, I think the Mafia wins this time (Julius?). And I've just realised how suspicious I've been acting all this time..
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Post by jon. on Sept 16, 2010 20:37:59 GMT
Watson: if you want, you can remove your vote by posting Unvote: name. My apologies if this was not made clear before.
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Post by Watson on Sept 16, 2010 20:58:01 GMT
Right! Unvote: Matty.So I'm the Naive Cop, and if Julius is scum, Matty's Insane and if Matty's scum, Julius is Insane.
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Sept 16, 2010 23:07:17 GMT
That seems like a pretty shambolic attempt at covering up to me.
Anyway as I said in advance I investigated joshua last night, and got an innocent result. This obviously rules out me being insane as that would imply that there were two scum. However I've not got the time right now to work out any other logical consequences and check them. I'll do this within 24 hours if no one else does.
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Post by Matt on Sept 17, 2010 2:28:42 GMT
If you look at the scenarios I posted for the last round and trim them with our more defined role possibilities, you will notice that even with the newer information, only one of us can be cleared. Me. So yeah, work it out for yourselves, but as far as I see it I have the only vote that matters. As the last cleared townie, anyone voting against me is admitting to being mob. That means the two of you shall vote for each other, and I'll cast the swing vote. I'll let you guys come to the same conclusion but it's what you will see if you look at the logic. Assuming I didn't bungle it, which is also possible as it gets tricky to keep track of. So I'll refrain from saying anything definite until you guys agree I'm cleared.
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Sept 17, 2010 5:18:55 GMT
Having looked at it, I think you're right. There's too many naive cops needed for you to be guilty.
Well I guess it makes sense to wait for your vote. If you vote for me I'd like to have a chance to make my case before I'm lynched and doubtless Watson would like to do the same. So I don't think it's a great idea for me and him to reciprocally vote just yet, as that doesn't really have any benefit.
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Post by Watson on Sept 17, 2010 10:24:21 GMT
So its me and Julius? Well, you did do a good job of covering up yourself, Julius..
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Post by Matt on Sept 17, 2010 16:55:43 GMT
I'll be honest, I'm probably gonna vote to lynch Julius. Watson's done some iffy stuff, but they seem more like honest mistakes. Julius had been the one i've suspected for a while now.
Overall, Julius has taken a slightly less active role, typical of mafia. He's also done two things I suspect. First, he tried to draw suspicion to Watson after the Jatayu lynching. Seems to me we all knew it would be us three in the final round and he wanted me to be ready to vote for Watson.
Also, I didn't understand why he offered he was investigating himself, then changed to Joshua. Granted, it accomplishes similar goals but there was no reason to switch unless he didn't want to get stuck in some tight spot he foresaw for posting his own results.
There's a very good shot it is watson as well, but I'm probably going to go with my gut feeling.
FoS: Julius
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Sept 17, 2010 17:10:28 GMT
Less active? That seems a little harsh given that the one burst of action occurred in a period of less than two hours. I haven't checked but I reckon you'll find more posts of substance from me than Jatayu or Josh (obviously in the period while they were alive).
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Sept 17, 2010 17:10:58 GMT
Screwed up the quote. Sorry.
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Post by Watson on Sept 17, 2010 18:21:22 GMT
Right, sorry everyone, I've been acting really iffy, like my role. At first, the results of Julius posting Matty as innocent seemed to clash with Jatayu's results posting me as innocent. Now this began to tie, leaving a doubt in which of them was naive and which of them was sane. My first thought was Jatayu is sane, since he knows what my role is, but looking at Matty's stance during that time, I began to wonder which of the two were sane and naive. Then Matty's results told of me being guilty, so I assumed that Matty was either Insane or Paranoid, and then Joshua's results told of me being guilty again. At the time, Jatayu was the only one who acted really suspicious (For a really no-good reason, sorry Jatayu! ), so I thought he lied about his result and expressed my suspicion. It turns out that Matty had the same suspect. Obviously ignorant of the fact that I'm online often, he threw out his lynch. Soon I caught on and so did Joshua, with Jatayu resulting in being deleted by Dave ( ). Then I look a look at the different possibilities of the scum by Matty again. Since we knew Jatayu was innocent and Joshua was our first cleared townie, I ruled them out of the list. Now left on the list was Julius and Matty; directly at first I scaled back on Matty, and began to clear the roles. It all seemed to fit directly, and I was sure of my suspicion that Matty was scum, when I suddenly remembered Julius. I then began to check roles for Julius as well, and it all seemed to fit as well, so I was stuck between them. Finally, it wasn't more of using my logical skills; I actually picked Matty without any logic. Anyway, due to the fact that Matty is our second cleared townie, this puts the last bit of jigsaw in place. I know that Matty and Joshua are cleared townies, Jatayu was wrongly accused and that I'm innocent. This leaves Julius out. Roles what I think they are: Jatayu: Sane. (Watson = Innocent) Joshua: Paranoid. (Watson = Guilty) Watson: Naive. (Julius = Innocent, Matty = Innocent) Matty: Insane. (Watson = Guilty, Matty = Guilty) Obviously Matty could be Paranoid instead of insane, so these may be inaccurate.
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Sept 17, 2010 18:42:34 GMT
Oh well done. Night could hardly end before the deadline until I had sent in my night action regardless of whether I was a cop or a killer. All this tells you is that I was the last to submit my action, and even that is assuming what you're saying about login times is even correct.
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Post by Watson on Sept 17, 2010 18:46:09 GMT
Perhaps, but you could rule out the login times. They don't even give a proper reason to suspect.
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Post by Watson on Sept 17, 2010 18:53:07 GMT
And obviously, you could have been at the wrong place at the wrong time too.
Edit: This mafia was really good, though I bungled quite a few times; this being my first one and all that, I think someone should rehost one soon sometime..
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Post by Matt on Sept 17, 2010 20:25:52 GMT
Okay, my post more or less got the response I was hoping for. I needed a few more posts from both of you to decide. Julius is good at Mafia games, I've been in a few with him and seen him win others. A part of me really did suspect him because he had done so little to be suspected. I just picked a few reasons, none of which had really any weight to them, threw them out there, and waited to see the responses. I never really planned to vote to lynch Julius at all. The truth of it is that not one of Watson's posts makes any sense to me. I'd rather see Julius win because he played a great game, it's less of my fault. If I lynch Julius and he was innocent, I really have no excuse for being so stupid. My only reasoning would be that for no logical reason, I kind of thought he was mafia from the beginning. Which I still do a bit. But Watson has more or less forced my hand. All I could do was point out a couple things and read his defence. It was solid, and so I kind of have to vote for Watson, who has used some seriously weird arguments. Lynch: Watson
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Sept 17, 2010 21:10:35 GMT
Lynch: Watson
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Post by jon. on Sept 17, 2010 21:24:38 GMT
That's a lynch. Will post game results later tonight.
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Post by Watson on Sept 18, 2010 6:16:41 GMT
That's a lynch. Congrats, Julius. Your trump card really did save you after all. Good game, Matty, but we lose.
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Post by jon. on Sept 18, 2010 13:26:23 GMT
Thanks to the lack of an internet browser (and Dave's lack of technology), he felt the best decision would be to bring his laptop to a Circuit City store and hope customer support would help them. However, once there, he was greeted by a man in his late 20s and was urged to purchase another copy of Windows 95 for $199 as well as a new hard drive, which they would replace, for an additional $249. The security quickly escorted him to his car. When he came home and started his laptop, he decided it would be best to try to install Windows 98 again. Fortunately, the disk did not cause another BSOD, but instead, when trying to partition his hard drive, fdisk.exe was missing. Shortly afterward, a CMD line came and displayed the following text: You shouldn't have done that. Windows then opened defrag.exe and started systematically destroying every file on his system; sure, defrag was performing an illegal operation, but the program wouldn't close. Eventually, all of his files were deleted and Dave's laptop became a toaster. fdisk.exe (Watson) and explorer.exe (Matty) have been deleted. They were both pro-town cops.
defrag.exe (Julius) has won as the mafia. Congrats to him.
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Post by jon. on Sept 18, 2010 13:39:46 GMT
A note for future games: Watson, you edited at least 9 of your posts in the game (plus all the other edited posts). Nobody cares if you triple-post or quadruple-post in a mafia game; the rules state to never edit your posts.
Anyway, I think we could get a few other Mafia games going here, now that we've tried playing once and we've had at least some experience. Anyone else want to host?
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Post by Watson on Sept 18, 2010 14:06:54 GMT
Congrats, Julius! I think it's best not to discuss the aftermath, seeing as I've done some pretty stupid things in this game which would be a reason why this thread can turn uncivil fast.. EDIT: Sorry Turty, I didn't know that. Anyway, let me make myself clear when I say that I only edited to spellcheck..
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Post by Julius CMXCIX on Sept 18, 2010 14:56:36 GMT
I'm taking the liberty of handing out a few words of advice.
Matty
You did pretty well and it would have been extremely difficult for you to have done anything else in the endgame, and very often the risk wouldn't pay off. Where you might have improved would have been not casting that vote on Jatayu. Doing it then didn't accomplish anything in particular and delaying actual votes might have been advantageous with such an inexperienced town. The fact that there was a speedy townie lynch without any involvement from me made my task much easier. Also there were a few things I said you could have picked me up on, but I think I'll keep quiet about those.
Joshua
Never cast the final vote of a lynch without allowing the lynch to be discussed adequately. Had you held off for a while I would have been compelled to comment and would have had to either publicly back what would turn out to be a townie lynch or present the genuine argument against it and it might not have happened. Also you seemed to regard guilty results against Watson as meaning something, in a game where cop sanities play a big role they don't indicate anything at all in themselves.
Jatayu
Townies should never lie. This is a good basic rule and although there are exceptions you can't trust your judgement on them until you've played a good number of games. Following this starting rule, lying should never be part of your discussion, as you will never contemplate lying yourself and if you find someone to have lied you will lynch them immediately and without further comment.
Watson
You'd be better off not asserting that you are town in every post, or using that assumption in your logical reasoning for suspecting others. Only information known or available publicly should be used in your arguments. Also, when you see something you feel is suspicious, before you mention it consider whether it is really something scum would have a reason to do. Finally it's unwise to use arguments that you know are rubbish, like the login times one.
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Post by Matt on Sept 18, 2010 18:50:19 GMT
Haha, why would we get uncivil? Nobody cares if you mess up in a mafia game.
And well, Damn, I sort of suspected Julius for the whole game, but seriously, what else could I do? GG, Julius.
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